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Re: Bitcoin forum

Berichtdoor neku » 11 Sep 2018 22:01

Wel Dirk, het komt aan op:

-privacy
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-onmogelijk te censureren
-zonder grenzen

en hoe de meesten die principes verloochenen :down:
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Re: Bitcoin forum

Berichtdoor neku » 13 Sep 2018 09:53

Bitcoin? Echte probleem van de cryptowereld blijft onopgelost

Ondanks alle beloften die bitcoin en gelijkaardige technologieën hebben gemaakt, blijven we 10 jaar later nog steeds wachten op een ‘killer app’. Net dat is het enige wat echt nodig is opdat iedereen cryptomunten gaat gebruiken.

De totale waarde van alle cryptomunten daalde het voorbije weekeinde onder de 200 miljard dollar, zo’n 76% minder dan tijdens de piek in januari, toen zo’n 832 miljard dollar in crypto’s werd opgemeten. Toch is de huidige 194 miljard dollar nog steeds meer dan de 140 miljard, die exact een jaar geleden in de markt stak. Maar ondanks dat is de cryptocrash nu groter dan de dotcomcrash begin 2000.

Redenen voor de meest recente daling

Experts zien een aantal redenen voor de meest recente daling. Zo zette de Amerikaanse Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) zondag de handel in de Bitcoin Tracker One en Ether Tracker tijdelijk stop, wat het sentiment van Amerikaanse beleggers tegenover de crypromunten bitcoin en ethereum zeker geen goed heeft gedaan. Die trackers moesten een alternatief vormen voor de achterblijvende goedkeuringen voor Exchange Traded Funds (ETF's of passief beheerde beleggingsfondsen). Maar die lijken er maar niet te komen, waardoor zowel cryptobeleggers als potentiële investeerders op hun honger blijven zitten.

Ook het gebrek aan transparantie, de bescherming van beleggers en marktintegriteit blijven de cryptowereld achtervolgen.
Waar blijft de 'killer app'?

Maar in de Wall Street Journal ziet crypto-journalist Paul Vigna een veel tastbaarder reden voor de falende bitcoin:

“Iedereen was gek op bitcoin toen die in 2017 door het dak ging, maar vandaag is men minder happig nu men gezien heeft wat zich aan de andere kant van dat dak bevindt. Het krankzinnige enthousiasme, de koop-tegen-elke-prijs-gekte die 2017 kenmerkte... ze zijn in 2018 volledig omgekeerd.

Het echte probleem is dat ondanks alle beloften die deze technologie heeft gemaakt, we 10 jaar later nog steeds geen ‘killer app’ hebben - het enige wat echt nodig is opdat iedereen cryptomunten gaat gebruiken.

Dat men snel online geld kan overmaken is fantastisch, maar de gebruikerservaring blijft onhandig en voor de meeste mensen zelfs onbegrijpelijk. Daarenboven blijven de risico’s op hacks, scams en andere zeer aanwezig.”

Wat VisiCalc deed voor de PC...

Vigna maakt de vergelijking met de lancering van de eerste PC’s begin jaren 1980. De allereerste grote ‘killer app’ was niets anders dan een spreadsheetprogramma dat de naam VisiCalc (voor ‘visible calculator’ of ‘zichtbare rekenmachine’) droeg en met de Apple II kwam. Zeer snel werd het een onmisbare standaard die mensen naar de desktop leidde. Maar de cryptowereld wacht nog altijd op zijn versie van de VisiCalc.

https://nl.express.live/2018/09/12/bitc ... onopgelost
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Re: Bitcoin forum

Berichtdoor neku » 14 Sep 2018 16:39

Topbelegger ziet bitcoin naar 40.000 dollar gaan: “Bodemkoers is bereikt”

Economie Voor wie belegt in cryptomunten bracht Michael Novogratz goed nieuws. De topbelegger in digitale munten ziet de toekomst rooskleurig tegemoet. Volgens hem is de crisis in de wereld van de cryptomunten voorbij en hebben we het ergste nu wel gehad, zo meldt Business Insider. De koers heeft een dieptepunt bereikt en de hausse is nabij.

Na zijn carrière bij zakenbank Goldman Sachs werd Novogratz een echte believer van cryptomunten. Nu beheert hij miljarden met zijn speculatief beleggingsfonds ‘Galaxy Investment partners’ dat zich focust op digitale valuta.

This is the BGCI chart...I think we put in a low yesterday. retouched the highs of late last year and the point of acceleration that led to the massive rally/bubble... markets like to retrace to the breakout..we retraced the whole of the bubble. #callingabottom pic.twitter.com/EasTBYgjSj
Michael Novogratz(@ novogratz)

De tweet die de topbelegger gisteren de wereld instuurde, miste zijn effect dan ook niet. Novogratz meldde dat de ‘Bloomberg Galaxy Crypto Index’ - die de voornaamste cryptomunten volgt die in dollars zijn genoteerd - volgens hem is uitgebodemd. De cryptomunten staan al maanden onder druk, maar nu zou de bodemkoers dus zijn bereikt. Vanaf nu wordt de weg omhoog ingezet.

Gisteren stegen de meeste crytomunten weer en vandaag was de bitcoin 6.500 dollar (omgerekend 5.570 euro) waard. In december 2017 piekte de koers nog op 19.500 dollar (omgerekend 16.710 euro) voor een bitcoin. Maar de comeback kan nu weer ingezet worden. Cryptofan Novogratz ziet de koers op termijn zelfs naar 40.000 dollar (omgerekend 34.280 euro) gaan. Hierbij zou de vorige recordkoers danig verbleken.

https://www.hln.be/geld/economie/topbel ... ~a0275089/

https://sludgefeed.com/michael-novograt ... et-bottom/
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Ethereum co-founder sees growth in crypto industry

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Re: Bitcoin forum

Berichtdoor neku » 15 Sep 2018 20:52

Nothing else comes close to what BAKKT will mean for Bitcoin

Bakkt hasn’t gotten nearly the coverage, chatter, or largely shared deconstruction that it deserves. If you are reading this what do you really know about Bakkt and what is about to happen to Bitcoin and the crypto markets connected to the newly formed firm?

Here is what you should know. Every single serious crypto investor, personality, institution, and hedge fund is talking about Bakkt. Almost exclusively. They don’t care about a Bitcoin ETF. They care about the Bakkt launch in November and the enormous volume of trading that will ensue connected to the penultimate digital asset across the globe.

**A reminder of what Bakkt is and what it will actually launch in November of this year, via Forbes’ excellent article in early August: “Bakkt plans to offer a full package combining a major CFTC-regulated exchange with CFTC-regulated clearing and custody, pending the approval from the commission and other regulators. Bakkt will provide access to a new Bitcoin trading platform on the ICE Futures U.S. exchange. And it will also offer full warehousing services, a business that ICE doesn’t have. “Bakkt’s revenue will come from two sources,” says Loeffler, “the trading fees on the ICE Futures U.S. exchange, and warehouse fees paid by the customers that buy Bitcoin and store with Bakkt.”

Step back and consider what you just read. A CFTC-regulated exchange, clearing, and custody. Some have often called Bitcoin ‘digital gold’. The infrastructure that Bakkt has built and is set to unleash takes the term ‘digital gold’ and makes it a reality.

But what does it all mean for the price of Bitcoin? What does it mean for continued and deeper adoption?

Those are precisely the reasons that both Microsoft and Starbucks were announced as partners when Bakkt released its vision in August. It is precisely the reasons that Fortress, Susquehanna, and Eagle Seven were more than happy to be included in the press that was done regarding the announcement of Bakkt onto the scene.

This is the biggest and most important initiative since Bitcoin was born. Period.

So what is the crypto ‘smart money’, where billionaires have been nibbling at the Bitcoin pie for the past three to five years, saying about Bakkt? Why is it the one initiative that lights up their eyes and gets them quickly talking about what ‘could’ and ‘should’ happen?

One ‘substantial’ crypto hedge fund manager that we spoke with had this to say about Bakkt:

“Nothing else on the horizon comes close to what Bakkt will mean for Bitcoin. The depth and breadth of the ICE (Intercontinental Exchange) network and exchange ecosystem means that adoption/trading volumes will skyrocket overnight. The same pipes and structures that allow Goldman, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, among a horde of others, to trade billions in commodities like gold, silver, soybeans, and corn; will be the same architecture used to trade Bitcoin.”

“Think of it this way…with the custody and ‘warehouse facility’ solved inside of Bakkt’s infrastructure you have solved the final issue that institutions have been clamoring for in the digital asset space. Their Bitcoin transactions and investments are ‘safe’ via the warehouse facility, and the ability to go claim their Bitcoin straight from the warehouse should they allow their position to mature to that point.”

“Rather than ‘physical’ Bitcoin per se, you are getting access to Bitcoin being housed in an uber protected, heavily secure facility that will hold the digital asset as the backstop for Bitcoin. That is what the Novogratz’ of the world, and Goldman and JPMorgan have been clamoring for.”

“While it would be interesting if Bakkt got the press it deserved, there really isn’t a single ‘name’ banking institution that could accompany them in a headline. And that is precisely the scale of the Bakkt story. The ramp up and volume with be enormous and lightning fast. Within months you will have billions of dollars in institutional cash running through Bakkt’s system, buying and selling Bitcoin.”

“This is ultimately the solution that the biggest players (within banking) want and need. And this move furthers the narrative of Bitcoin as a ‘store of value’ or ‘digital gold’.”

**Several points to make sure we deconstruct here – the custody solution that Bakkt is proposing and will launch with is remarkable. To treat Bitcoin in the same way that wheat, corn, or copper is treated may not sound sexy, but it actually is. Institutions will flock to the asset because the custody issue has been solved, de-risked, and security layers will have been deployed to the underlying ‘warehoused’ Bitcoin. Every major investment bank trades billions of dollars of their own assets, and client assets on ICE’s network of exchanges across the globe (12 global exchanges, 6 clearinghouses). Adding Bitcoin as a commodity within its already deeply established exchange, clearing, and warehousing infrastructure makes Bakkt the immediate and defacto leader. Every investment bank in the world will now be able to trade Bitcoin in the same way that they would trade gold or silver. That capability does not exist, at this scale, anywhere else.

A second hedge fund manager gave us a little more color on what Bakkt means for their business:

“Institutional trading and recognition of Bitcoin as a legitimate asset class is what Bakkt brings to the table. The legitimate (not smoke and mirrors) to brand like the NYSE, Microsoft, and the family of ICE exchanges is infinitely bigger than a Bitcoin ETF approval. An ETF approval might make headlines, but you are about to watch crypto trade desks metastasize across Wall Street connected directly to what Bakkt is providing all of us.”

“Remember, all of the IB’s (investment banks) are massive clients of ICE and the NYSE. They transact billions upon billions of daily transactions in other commodities on their platforms across the US, Europe, and Asia. Positioning an initial digital asset such as Bitcoin within ICE’s exchange architecture makes it just as easy to trade as gold or wheat. The custody solution has been the final frontier for larger institutions, and Bakkt has effectively solved that problem.”

“What do I expect in terms of price movement as Bakkt launches and moves beyond the end of 2018? I expect that Bitcoin will make a move up close to the 10k mark as volume picks up dramatically and clients continue to clamor for a piece of the ‘future of money’.”

A few words about the architects of Bakkt and their vision, via Fortune’s article several weeks ago:

“Bakkt is the brainchild of Jeff Sprecher, the founder, chairman, and CEO of ICE, and a disrupter par excellence. Sprecher (pronounced “Sprecker”) stands alone as the leading force in modernizing the world’s exchanges in recent years from open-outcry pits into super-efficient electronic marketplaces. Along the way, Sprecher built a flailing electricity exchange that he reportedly purchased for $1 into a global trading and data empire now worth $44 billion. “In 25 years he’s gone from nothing to the most powerful exchange entrepreneur in the world,” says Larry Tabb, chief of consultancy the Tabb Group. “He hasn’t failed yet.””

“Sprecher and his investment partners are putting this one-of-a-kind mission in the hands of a first-time CEO who’s Sprecher’s soulmate in both business and in life: Kelly Loeffler. The ICE executive has ridden shotgun alongside Sprecher since the company’s fledgling days in 2002. In 2004, they married. Loeffler long ran marketing, investor relations, and communications for ICE. Now she’s giving up her ICE roles to run Bakkt.”

As Michael Novogratz was quoted as saying on the day that the Bakkt news was released, “Heard from a contact that you never want to be ‘short’ Jeff Sprecher, so we are happy to be long.”

The point being made by Novogratz is that Jeff and Kelly have been phenomenally successful in bringing products to market and just the right time, in just the right place, and to just the right customers.

Nearly every member of the crypto Illuminati would agree with him – and many of them have large stakes in Bakkt and its pending success.

**A quick and short word about some rumors connected to Bakkt and future coin listings. We heard from one source that Bakkt initially planned to list more than just Bitcoin on its exchanges but pulled back. Bitcoin and Ethereum, and before that, possibly a third digital asset were considered. We were not able to confirm with a second source that this was true (in fact, we were told that the veracity of that claim was ‘dubious’ at best) or get our hands on the actual offering documents. We did however have several conversations that made it sound like Bakkt would eventually like to list another ‘non-security’ token across its platforms, and that token would likely be Ethereum. Again, as of yet, Bakkt has yet to share any public guidance around additional listings or any other rumor that may have arisen since their announcement.

https://theicojournal.com/source-bakkt- ... r-bitcoin/
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